My garage door opener seems to hop frequencies

I only need raw records, you can throw it here too

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In brief

Item Value
Product Chamberlain LiftMaster 971LM remote
Frequency 390 MHz
Modulation AM650 or AM270?
FCC ID HBW1241
Control IC 125C0126, 9B1847, 0042 (might have misread)
Source 971LM Remote Control | LiftMaster

Details

I only have a 1 button model, but the circuit board has places for 4 buttons. I could try jumping/shorting those briefly to see if that functionality works on this remote. Thereā€™s a good chance itā€™s just treated as 4 unique rolling codes given the manual advertises using any button to control any Security+ device.

Recordings

LiftMaster 971LM 390 MHz remotes.zip (42.0 KB)
Archived as the Security+ 1.0 protocol has been implemented. If needed, feel free to message me.

I wasnā€™t sure if it was AM270 or AM650, so I recorded a bit with both modulations.

Filename Description
LiftMaster_Remote1_AM650.sub 10Ɨ pressing remote 1ā€™s single button, recorded with AM650
LiftMaster_Remote2_AM270.sub 10Ɨ pressing remote 2ā€™s single button, recorded with AM270
LiftMaster_Remote3_AM650.sub 10Ɨ pressing remote 3ā€™s single button, recorded with AM650

Note: All three remotes are the same model. I merely wasnā€™t sure which modulation itā€™s using or if itā€™d be helpful to have multiple. Trying either FM[ā€¦] modulation appeared to not contain any data based on the Flipperā€™s signal graph.

Photos

Skipped as suggested. I can take photos if desired though!

Ok!

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dachshund security + 2.0 won today, you need to brush it a little. the author of the encoding, of course, did not smoke like a child. much more interesting than keelog but not so secret

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add Security + 2.0

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Awesome!

From reading https://github.com/argilo/secplus it sounds like Security+ 1.0 has zero overlap with 2.0 so thereā€™s no concern, but if itā€™d be useful, I could verify that my Security+ 1.0 remote isnā€™t incorrectly detected as the 2.0 protocol.

Hopefully @Fatvod can check with their Security+ 2.0 remotes soon.

Come on, check and write how it works. security + 1.0 will also add

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It works! I scanned with 315 and it picked it up right away. It doesnt allow me to replay the signal, is that expected?

Thanks!

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Based on the documentation, it looks like Flipper can only save signals with a static code.

From what Iā€™ve read elsewhere, youā€™re encouraged to create a new remote with the correct protocol, then put your garage door in ā€œlearningā€ mode to teach it this new remote. This helps avoid accidentally locking yourself out by de-syncing your normal remote with Flipper advancing the rolling code, similar to what happened to someone on Reddit (who tried to clone as if it was a static code).

There may also be legal requirements or concerns around disabling saving recordings of existing dynamic code signals. Iā€™m not sure.

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Yes, there are legal restrictions, I donā€™t want the device to be banned for sale at all. about adding a remote control. not yet either. First you need to find out again the legal point of view on this. Or wait in a non-official firmware, if you manage to add

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I can verify that this recognizes my 315 MHz Security+ v1 remotes just fine.

Whatā€™s the problem with allowing to manually add and emulate one of these? Given the rolling code nature itā€™s not like this would make it possible to emulate an existing remote, and I would need physical access to my garage door opener to pair that emulated remote with the receiver, so I donā€™t see how thereā€™s a legal problem here if flipper is already allowed to transmit on these frequencies.

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Updated to 1ca9817, and Iā€™m able to read my 390 MHz door openerā€™s Security+ 1.0 signal as well, thank you!

Adding on to this, it looks like the Security+ 1.0 patent has expired, and the Security+ 2.0 patent has been abandoned.

However, I wouldnā€™t be surprised if there are other concerns despite 315 MHz being allowed for transmit under U.S. FCC certification (i.e. this wouldnā€™t apply to my 390 MHz garage door opener). I am not a lawyer.

if the creation and transfer of code is allowed, who said that this will not allow emulating an existing keychain? this is a double-edged sword, so letā€™s do it ourselves, I donā€™t break the law

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At the moment I have no interest in cloning an existing transmitter. Iā€™m merely interested in using the flipper to create a new unique transmitter that can then be paired. Iā€™m having a tough time seeing how this would differ from just purchasing a new transmitter on Amazon.

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I just got this door opener frequency to work by adding 310AM to the list for subghz scanning and frequencies.

It was working after I did a 10 capture sequence with the ā€œRead RAWā€ setting configured to: AM650 - 310.00 frequency.

I tried to do a new capture and then the remote stopped working but it did open my garage a couple of times on video before it stopped working again!

itā€™s a rolling protocol, it changes every time itā€™s sent. make a record of 5+ button presses, you can stand next to the garage that the key fob did not get rid of, and try to play this recording

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That helps a ton! Thank you for the tip!!!